7:164

وَإِذۡ قَالَتۡ أُمَّةٞ مِّنۡهُمۡ لِمَ تَعِظُونَ قَوۡمًا ٱللَّهُ مُهۡلِكُهُمۡ أَوۡ مُعَذِّبُهُمۡ عَذَابٗا شَدِيدٗاۖ قَالُواْ مَعۡذِرَةً إِلَىٰ رَبِّكُمۡ وَلَعَلَّهُمۡ يَتَّقُونَ

Waith qalat ommatun minhum lima taAAithoona qawman Allahu muhlikuhum aw muAAaththibuhum AAathaban shadeedan qaloo maAAthiratan ila rabbikum walaAAallahum yattaqoona

And when a community among them said, "Why do you advise [or warn] a people whom Allah is [about] to destroy or to punish with a severe punishment?" they [the advisors] said, "To be absolved before your Lord and perhaps they may fear Him."

Word by word
  1. وَإِذۡAnd when
  2. قَالَتۡsaid
  3. أُمَّةٞa community
  4. مِّنۡهُمۡamong them
  5. لِمَWhy
  6. تَعِظُونَ(do) you preach
  7. قَوۡمًاa people
  8. ٱللَّهُ(whom) Allah
  9. مُهۡلِكُهُمۡ(is going to) destroy them
  10. أَوۡor
  11. مُعَذِّبُهُمۡpunish them
  12. عَذَابٗا(with) a punishment
  13. شَدِيدٗاۖsevere
  14. قَالُواْThey said
  15. مَعۡذِرَةًTo be absolved
  16. إِلَىٰbefore
  17. رَبِّكُمۡyour Lord
  18. وَلَعَلَّهُمۡand that they may
  19. يَتَّقُونَbecome righteous
Al-A'raf · 7:164Makkah

Why bother warning them? So we are excused before Allah.

Three groups in the town, and the reason to keep speaking


The town split three ways
the breakersfished on the Sabbath
the adviserskept warning them
the silentwhy bother?
Why speak up
it will not workso stay quiet
two reasonsmy dutymaybe they will turn

Ibn Kathir says the town split into three: those who broke the rule, those who warned them, and those who did neither. The silent group asked why bother. The advisers answered: to be free of blame before your Lord, and perhaps they may fear Him.

Your friend is getting into gambling, or a cousin keeps drinking and driving. Everyone says: they will not listen, leave it. You do not speak because you are sure it will work. You speak because it is right, and because maybe it will.

If they will not listen, there is no point saying anything.

I give sincere advice to be clear before Allah, and in hope they may change.

Try this

Think of one person you have stopped advising. Send one short, kind message today.

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Tafsir Ibn Kathir

And when a community among them said: "Why do you preach to a people whom Allah is about to destroy or to punish with a severe torment?" (The preachers) said: "In order to be free from guilt before your Lord (Allah), and perhaps they may fear Allah. (164)So when they forgot the reminder that had been given to them, We rescued those who forbade evil, but with a severe torment We seized those who did wrong, because they used to rebel against Allah's command (165)So when they exceeded the limits of what they were prohibited, We said to them: "Be you monkeys, despised. (166)

Those Who breached the Sabbath were turned into Monkeys, but Those Who prohibited Their Actions were saved

Allah said that the people of this village were divided into three groups, a group that committed the prohibition, catching fish on the Sabbath, as we described in the Tafsir of Surat Al-Baqarah. Another group prohibited them from transgression and avoided them. A third group neither prohibited them, nor participated in their action. The third group said to the preachers,

لِمَ تَعِظُونَ قَوْمًا اللَّهُ مُهْلِكُهُمْ أَوْ مُعَذِّبُهُمْ عَذَابًا شَدِيدًا

("Why do you preach to a people whom Allah is about to destroy or to punish with a severe torment?").

They said, 'why do you forbid these people from evil, when you know that they are destroyed and have earned Allah's punishment?' Therefore, they said, there is no benefit in forbidding them. The preachers replied,

مَعْذِرَةً إِلَىٰ رَبِّكُمْ

("In order to be free from guilt before your Lord (Allah),") 'for we were commanded to enjoin righteousness and forbid evil,'

وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَّقُونَ

("and perhaps they may fear Allah") for on account of our advice, they might stop this evil and repent to Allah. Certainly, if they repent to Allah, Allah will accept their repentance and grant them His mercy.' Allah said,

فَلَمَّا نَسُوا مَا ذُكِّرُوا بِهِ

(So when they forgot the reminder that had been given to them,) when the evil doers refused the advice,

أَنجَيْنَا الَّذِينَ يَنْهَوْنَ عَنِ السُّوءِ وَأَخَذْنَا الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا

(We rescued those who forbade evil, but We seized who did wrong,) who committed the transgression,

بِعَذَابٍ بَئِيسٍ

(with a severe torment). Allah stated that those who enjoined good were saved, while those who committed the transgression were destroyed, but He did not mention the end of those who were passive (the third group), for the compensation is comparable to the deed. This type did not do what would warrant praise, nor commit wrong so that they are admonished.

Ikrimah said, "Ibn 'Abbas said about the Ayah: 'I do not know whether or not the people were saved who said;

لِمَ تَعِظُونَ قَوْمًا اللَّهُ مُهْلِكُهُمْ

("Why do you preach to a people whom Allah is about to destroy…?")

So I continued discussing it with him until I convinced him that they were. Then he gave me [the gift of] a garment." Allah said,

وَأَخَذْنَا الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا بِعَذَابٍ بَئِيسٍ

(and We seized those who did wrong with a Ba'is torment) indicating that those who remained were saved. As for 'Ba'is', it means 'severe', according to Mujahid, or 'painful', according to Qatadah. These meanings are synonymous, and Allah knows best. Allah said next,

خَاسِئِينَ

(despised), humiliated, disgraced and rejected.